lizbee: (Star Trek: Saavik)
[personal profile] lizbee
Okay, I may have skipped a few Star Trek movies. But I got to the end of The Motion Picture and realised that I watched II and III only last year, and IV is best watched with friends (and [profile] suburbannoir has been keen to watch it for ages). And while there may have once been a fifth Star Trek movie, I can only assume that it was eaten by a mysterious crack in the universe and wiped out of history.

So we hit The Undiscovered Country, for which I have a massive soft spot on account of how it was my very first encounter with the TOS crew. And, y'know, I still love it. It has all the interstellar politics, backstabbing and Walter Koenig that make Babylon 5 so awesome, and I think it might actually have triggered my great love for really awkward dinner scenes.

On the other hand, I am very, very glad that Nichelle Nichols and Brock Peters refused to say the most racist lines in the script, and that the director let them. And I am very glad that Saavik was replaced by Valeris, because I love my Saavik almost as much as Spock does, and I couldn't buy her as a traitor. It is my hope (for the great thing about the newmovieverse is that you can look at old canon with new eyes) that in the AOSverse, Spock Prime seeks out Valeris and guides her development enough that she doesn't start doing epically stupid things like betraying the Federation. Also, Kim Cattral is really, really bad at that whole acting thing, and I don't think it's wholly appropriate to respond to an unwanted mindmeld with orgasm noises.

In short: jolly good movie, does not overstay its welcome, includes Christopher Plummer literally twirling in a chair and quoting Shakespeare. And you could create a drinking game called Spot The Redressed TNG Set, which would be kind of fun, only also weird.

AND NOW I am still having stomach pains from BREAKFAST, so I'm off to bed to rub my belly and feel slightly sorry for myself.

Date: 2010-07-09 02:26 pm (UTC)
jaythenerdkid: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jaythenerdkid
Now I feel all bad that all I know about Star Trek can be summed up as "live long and prosper!" and "KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!" (I know the latter mostly because every time I meet a Trekkie in real life and introduce myself using my RL name, they yell it at me. :P)

Date: 2010-07-09 03:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] skywaterblue
IV is a great party movie, for nerds. Get some beer and start quoting along!

But VI is probably my favorite - I've always thought it was underrated. And it's probably my first exposure to TOS as well. (Though I seem to recall endlessly rewinding IV over and over again to see the whaaaales when I was in whales!r!osom phase.)

Date: 2010-07-09 03:12 pm (UTC)
krazykitkat: (Default)
From: [personal profile] krazykitkat
I do so love that movie.

Date: 2010-07-09 04:02 pm (UTC)
jmtorres: From Lady Gaga's Bad Romance music video; the peach-haired, wide-eyed iteration (Default)
From: [personal profile] jmtorres
On the other hand, I am very, very glad that Nichelle Nichols and Brock Peters refused to say the most racist lines in the script, and that the director let them.

I don't know this story. Please elaborate?

Date: 2010-07-09 09:56 pm (UTC)
amaresu: Sapphire and Steel from the opening (Default)
From: [personal profile] amaresu
5th Star Trek movie? I've heard rumors of it, but thought it was lost to time. This is for the best really.

Date: 2010-07-10 01:45 am (UTC)
purple_smurf: Winnie the Pooh dressed as the fourth Doctor; text reads "Silly Old Time Lord" (doctor who)
From: [personal profile] purple_smurf
The only manner in which the rumoured fifth Star Trek film exists is in its novelisation, which I haven't read since about 1994 but I recall thinking even as a 12 or 13 year old was much better than any non-existent film could be.

Date: 2010-07-10 10:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] gominokouhai
Ah, VI. I love VI. Doesn't quite pip II, but it's up there.

(You watched II only last year? I can watch II twice in an evening.)

> Also, Kim Cattral is really, really bad at that whole acting thing, and I don't think it's wholly appropriate to respond to an unwanted mindmeld with orgasm noises.

Those are, in fact, exactly the same sounds as she uses for orgasm noises, and the only acting she seems to know how to do. I've just reviewed Sex and the City 1 and 2, and I've heard more of them than any human should bear.

Date: 2010-07-11 02:43 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] fallingtowers
The Shakespeare references are the main reason why I treasure Star Trek VI so much. I distinctly remember my year as a professor's student assistent at the local chair for Shakespearean Studies when I spent lots of time carrying piles of books to and fro from the Renaissance research library and found the Klingon Language Institute's version of Hamlet on the shelves. I think it was the only time I ever yelled in a university library: "OMG, they have got the original!" Unfortunately, nobody else got the joke.

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