lizbee: (DW: Amy (waiting))
[personal profile] lizbee
There was exactly one word in this episode that I didn't like.  ONE. 



The one word I didn't like: "Williams." I could see where they were going, that Amy is to some extent in a state of arrested development and, even after her marriage, has been unable or unwilling to see herself as a truly adult person. She's still little Amelia Pond (UNEXPECTED CAITLIN BLACKWOOD!). But using her husband's name to signify growing up didn't work for me. On the other hand, Moff has said on Twitter that he thinks it's strange and silly that women are expected to automatically change their names upon marriage (and his wife certainly didn't) so I don't expect it will be a permanent or ongoing thing.

I expected to be very angry at Rita's death, because clever and brave women of colour and faith are all too rare in TV, and Moff's Who is still failing at diversity to a great extent. But I felt like it was a good (though tragic) death rather than a fridging: she went out on her own terms, as far as possible, refusing to be part of the Doctor's unspoken plan to use her as bait and instead drawing the minotaur away from everyone else. So instead of RAGE I'm just sad that there's an ongoing pattern of fail.

(Although, I've already seen people saying, well, she couldn't have survived and gone on to become a companion, because how could you have a person of faith in the TARDIS without a very special episode about Losing Her Faith? The tectonic forces of my eyerolling just caused a minor tsunami.)

Other than those things, I really, really loved this episode. It's like someone said, "You know what the world needs? A mash-up of 'The Horns of Nimon' and 'The Curse of Fenric'." And somehow, that person wasn't me, and it was actually made, and it was GLORIOUS. Even though all the wailing of "praise him" gave me Soldeed flashbacks. But who doesn't love a good round of LORD NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIMON! IT IS IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII! SOLDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED!"? PEOPLE WITHOUT SOULS, THAT'S WHO!

(I tried to explain to my father yesterday about how season 17 represents Doctor Who in a state of absolute perfection. He just made sputtering noises about Pertwee and Troughton and the Brig.)

Bits I loved:  Rory musing on small battles and personal heroics, like overcoming a speech impediment.  That's why I like Rory.  I was kind of weirded out that he apparently doesn't have any kind of faith, not even faith that Amy will hit him with a shoe if the mood takes her, but then I got to thinking, he does have a lot of faith in her, but it's not remotely blind.  And I'm glad that he has apparently been thinking of leaving the Doctor all ready (he referred to their time together in past tense!), because after last week it would have seemed really weird if he was happy to go along and stay.  Likewise Amy, but she has her childhood programming to overcome.

I didn't dislike David Walliams' character -- although I couldn't remember his name, and just thought of him as Quisling -- but it seems like the kind of role that could be taken by any competent character actor.  Not that Walliams was bad -- indeed, more the opposite, he wisely played it low-key, probably realising that a broader performance would have had the audience calling for his death -- but I'd assumed he'd have a more central role.

The important thing is OH AMY.  I have to say, the Doctor is getting better at this sort of thing -- there was something about their farewell scene that made me think he was missing the good old days when he could just lock a person out of the TARDIS and give a speech about going forward in all your beliefs.  But her recognition at the end that this was the right thing to do, and her sadness, that really resonated with me.

Cheer up, Amy!  At least he didn't dump you in another universe!  And I presume the Ponds will be back for the season finale. 

And next week, the Doctor reunites with his true love, Craig.  SO INFATUATED, DOCTOR!  IT IS REALLY SWEET!  I look forward to a recurrence of last year's fatphobia re: James Corden.  (Who I haven't seen in anything else, so I have no opinion of him outside of Doctor Who, but the fanpeople saying he was too fat to be paired with Sophie got some epic side-eye from me.)

Date: 2011-09-18 12:54 am (UTC)
fahrbotdrusilla: Irulan’s ridic costume (Default)
From: [personal profile] fahrbotdrusilla
I look forward to a recurrence of last year's fatphobia re: James Corden. (Who I haven't seen in anything else, so I have no opinion of him outside of Doctor Who, but the fanpeople saying he was too fat to be paired with Sophie got some epic side-eye from me.)

Not only that, they were complaining it was anti feminist that she'd even want him IRL.

Date: 2011-09-18 12:59 am (UTC)
such_heights: amy and rory looking at a pile of post (who: amy/rory [cling])
From: [personal profile] such_heights
AMY POND. ALL THE FEELINGS. as;lakjsda And yes, it was a graceful, bittersweet exit from the TARDIS, which isn't making me feel any better right now but I can appreciate is a good thing. And they're not gone for good. And Amy and Rory and Amy and PONDS. <3 (Pfft, Williams, pfft. It was an unnecessarily jarring way to make that point.)

Date: 2011-09-18 01:34 am (UTC)
calapine: (Default)
From: [personal profile] calapine
There was exactly one word in this episode that I didn't like.

I GUESSED IT RIGHT. I am so giving myself a prize.

Date: 2011-09-18 01:34 am (UTC)
copracat: (sarah jane - 3)
From: [personal profile] copracat
AUGH. Williams. So paternalistic. But never mind. Like so much of the Who this season I find myself hovering between outrage and love and not really feeling either. I also don't emotionally or narratively believe that Rory and Amy are ex-companions.

It also seems that somewhere in there Amy and Rory have dealt with the whole 'we have a child/no we don't' trauma or whatever.

It's like someone said, "You know what the world needs? A mash-up of 'The Horns of Nimon' and 'The Curse of Fenric'."

Yeah. That. \0/

Date: 2011-09-18 01:25 pm (UTC)
rhivolution: Arthur Darvill in a wood panelled room, looking upwards thoughtfully (dreaming in colour: Arthur Darvill/Rory)
From: [personal profile] rhivolution
I wanted her to survive and tell the Doctor to go jump off a bridge when he asked her to be a companion after all that. I think it would have worked well in the greater narrative. [shrug]

Date: 2011-09-18 06:31 pm (UTC)
susanreads: the 11th Doctor (with fez) as a dreamsheep (who eleven sheep)
From: [personal profile] susanreads
Yeah, it was good! I liked the double meaning of the title, though the parallelism between the Doctor and the minotaur was a bit ... printed in bold in case we didn't notice. I was a bit put out that they saved the character who was in no way worthy instead of the woman who Told the Doctor some home truths, but she did go to her death on her own terms, as you say. I agree with [personal profile] rhivolution's wish that she got a chance to tell him where to get off.

Next episode has a baby - Craig and Sophie's, I guess. I wonder whether we'll get to see Eleven having feeeeelings about failing to save baby Melody.

Date: 2011-09-19 12:29 am (UTC)
trouble: Sketch of Hermoine from Harry Potter with "Bookworms will rule the world (after we finish the background reading)" on it (Default)
From: [personal profile] trouble
But that's not how speech impediments work. You don't just take some classes and "get over" them. You don't defeat them. People who have speech impediments have to do daily exercises. And on top of that it positions speech impediments as a flaw one has to fight rather than just a thing that happens to be true.

I'm not even going to touch on the Williams thing. It seemed needlessly mean.

Date: 2011-09-19 11:59 pm (UTC)
nam_jai: (DW Romana)
From: [personal profile] nam_jai
I tried to explain to my father yesterday about how season 17 represents Doctor Who in a state of absolute perfection.

I'm in the midst of season 17 in my watching-Classic-Who-in-order project (Horns of Nimon is, in fact, next! \o/), and because the book is there and I got it for free, I follow along reading the Fourth Doctor volume of Lawrence Miles and Tat Wood's About Time episode guide and I increasingly wonder why they hate fun. Oh, they mostly liked City of Death, but much of the rest on S17 is their failure to recognize the increasing awesomeness of Romana, and crabbing about Douglas Adams and Tom Baker, and ... feh. Just in time for the end of the season, I've decided I need to stop reading. Nimon and Shada will undoubtedly both be more enjoyable without them.

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