Doctor Who: The Angels Take Manhattan
Sep. 30th, 2012 10:12 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
Note: this post contains a lot of animated gifs.
I kind of need to express my feelings through the medium of a gif parade. One moment.

(FACT! When I hit Tumblr's "crying gif" tag, the first six entries were all reactions to this episode!)


SO, YES. I HAVE SOME FEELINGS. THERE HAS BEEN SOME UGLY CRYING. AND NOT JUST BECAUSE iVIEW LOST ITS CONNECTION FOR 30 SECONDS RIGHT AS AMY WAS ADVANCING TOWARDS THE FINAL ANGEL.
Basically, I was afraid of an ending like "Doomsday" or "Journey's End", something that basically said, "Hey, remember everything that made this character likable and interesting? Yeah, forget that. We've mind-wiped it and dumped it on a beach with a homicidal clone-Doctor, and you're going to like it, fandom."
This wasn't that. This felt like a natural end to Amy and Rory's story: a timey-wimey happily ever after where Amy willingly walks away from the Doctor because she's finally found something more important. (Remember those times Rory felt like he held second place in Amy's affections? IT'S OKAY, RORY, IT'S REALLY OKAY.)
A really horrible ending would have been for Rory to be unreachable, and Amy to have demanded to be taken home to Leadworth so she can live in her blue-doored house and MOURN FOREVER. This was a happy, bittersweet ending. Amy and Rory can be together, and have amazing adventures in twentieth century New York, and ... well, okay, there's WWII about to happen, but they're better off in America than Great Britain. (Someone should write fic about Amy and Rory's grandparents getting anonymous care packages from America containing nylons and lipstick and chocolate and general rationing-avoiding things!)
And, I noted, River, with her vortex manipulator, can still visit them. She just can't bring the Doctor, or take them with her. (I presume that Amy and Rory themselves are paradoxes now, so it would destroy New York if the Doctor, say, turned up in 1942 and took them home then. And in theory he could visit, but I think it's better for him to make a clean break, and not burden the next companion with "Amy would know what to do" type shenanigans. Hopefully his time with River will help him move on a bit.
OMG RIVER AND THE DOCTOR. How can people say he's not into her? When he's checking his breath and straightening his bow tie, slicking his hair and giving up a bit of his life to heal River's arm. The only other time we've seen him do that is for the TARDIS in "Rise of the Cybermen" or whatever it was! THAT'S HOW MUCH HE LOVES HER!
I just read the transcript of Amy's afterword, and now I'm all teary again. STUPID SHOW.
"Only you could fancy a character in a book." IF ONLY YOU KNEW, AMY, IF ONLY YOU KNEW.
I kind of need to express my feelings through the medium of a gif parade. One moment.


(FACT! When I hit Tumblr's "crying gif" tag, the first six entries were all reactions to this episode!)


SO, YES. I HAVE SOME FEELINGS. THERE HAS BEEN SOME UGLY CRYING. AND NOT JUST BECAUSE iVIEW LOST ITS CONNECTION FOR 30 SECONDS RIGHT AS AMY WAS ADVANCING TOWARDS THE FINAL ANGEL.
Basically, I was afraid of an ending like "Doomsday" or "Journey's End", something that basically said, "Hey, remember everything that made this character likable and interesting? Yeah, forget that. We've mind-wiped it and dumped it on a beach with a homicidal clone-Doctor, and you're going to like it, fandom."
This wasn't that. This felt like a natural end to Amy and Rory's story: a timey-wimey happily ever after where Amy willingly walks away from the Doctor because she's finally found something more important. (Remember those times Rory felt like he held second place in Amy's affections? IT'S OKAY, RORY, IT'S REALLY OKAY.)
A really horrible ending would have been for Rory to be unreachable, and Amy to have demanded to be taken home to Leadworth so she can live in her blue-doored house and MOURN FOREVER. This was a happy, bittersweet ending. Amy and Rory can be together, and have amazing adventures in twentieth century New York, and ... well, okay, there's WWII about to happen, but they're better off in America than Great Britain. (Someone should write fic about Amy and Rory's grandparents getting anonymous care packages from America containing nylons and lipstick and chocolate and general rationing-avoiding things!)
And, I noted, River, with her vortex manipulator, can still visit them. She just can't bring the Doctor, or take them with her. (I presume that Amy and Rory themselves are paradoxes now, so it would destroy New York if the Doctor, say, turned up in 1942 and took them home then. And in theory he could visit, but I think it's better for him to make a clean break, and not burden the next companion with "Amy would know what to do" type shenanigans. Hopefully his time with River will help him move on a bit.
OMG RIVER AND THE DOCTOR. How can people say he's not into her? When he's checking his breath and straightening his bow tie, slicking his hair and giving up a bit of his life to heal River's arm. The only other time we've seen him do that is for the TARDIS in "Rise of the Cybermen" or whatever it was! THAT'S HOW MUCH HE LOVES HER!
I just read the transcript of Amy's afterword, and now I'm all teary again. STUPID SHOW.
"Only you could fancy a character in a book." IF ONLY YOU KNEW, AMY, IF ONLY YOU KNEW.
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Date: 2012-09-30 12:36 am (UTC)But yes, Amy going out on her own terms, complete with ending narration, was just what I was hoping for. I mean, mostly I was hoping for the Ponds to NEVER EVER LEAVE, but you know.
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Date: 2012-09-30 12:38 am (UTC)I'm just so glad that Amy got to make the choice, and she's not waiting anymore, and she's still going to have a mad, amazing adventure.
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Date: 2012-09-30 12:53 am (UTC)Have you already forgotten that RTD didn't write this episode?
It's on here in seven minutes. FETCHING KLEENEX.
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Date: 2012-09-30 12:54 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2012-09-30 01:01 am (UTC)EXCEPT BY "LAST OF THE TIME LORDS", BECAUSE HOLY SHIT.
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Date: 2012-09-30 01:04 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-09-30 02:03 am (UTC)But yes, thank you. I missed that.
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Date: 2012-09-30 03:37 am (UTC)Agreed.
I do hope River visits them quite a bit. She's a good girl.
Is this the first time River has called Amy "mother"? Whether it is or not, it certainly is a rare thing, and it shocked me. In a good way.
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Date: 2012-09-30 10:47 pm (UTC)But if not, I imagine that Rory would probably do quite well in the medical schools of the era.
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Date: 2012-10-01 12:16 am (UTC)We don't actually know for certain they were sent back to 1938 again, since it was a different Angel away from the whole hotel scheme - just that they both lived another 50-odd years and then died before 2012. It could be basically any time prior to the early 50s.
But yes, I shall stay with you guys here with the opinions that are reasonable. (On the other hand, checking out comments I disagree with has given me some insight into opinions I find utterly alien - apparently Moffat fails as a writer because he doesn't have enough plots about aliens invading and trying to destroy the Earth.)