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What did you recently finish reading?

I was so disappointed by season 5 of The Expanse that I went and read the seventh and eighth books, and adored them so much that I was inspired to reread Leviathan Wakes. And man, that was not a good book. I don't understand how it got a sequel, let alone a pile of awards and an acclaimed adaptation, but I have to respect James S. A. Corey's glow-up.

More recently: The Secrets We Keep, a contemporary middle grade by Nova Weetman. The heroine starts rebuilding her life following the destruction of her home and the loss of her mother in a house fire. Only she may have exaggerrated when she told her new friend that her mother is dead.

I saw the twist coming a mile away, but then, I'm considerably older than the target audience, and half the pleasure of Weetman's work is watching her put the story together. She has a knack for finding the right balance between angst and joy.

What are you currently reading? 

The Left-Handed Booksellers of London by Garth Nix. This is going to be someone's favourite book. It's very, very good, but doesn't quite click for me for reasons that are more about my own pedantry than anything else. I'm going to finish it, though, because I want to see how it ends, and I'm enjoying how much it feels like a Rivers of London AU where the Folly has a retail arm.

(The heroine's love interest is genderfluid with a vast wardrobe of couture suits and dresses, an equally impressive collection of weapons, and a snarky yet loving relationship with his sister, if that's the kind of thing you're into.)

What do you think you'll read next?

I have The Mother Fault by Kate Mildenhall in my Libby app -- that's an Australian SF novel which is being marketed very hard as litfic and not any type of filthy genre. So that could go either way. (Sometimes this ends in a great novel; more often in a book which clearly suffers from having had an editor who wasn't familiar with the genre.)

But I also have a growing pile of Australian middle grade and SF to read, and I think the next one I pick up will be Tiger Daughter by Rebecca Lim.

Date: 2021-02-11 11:45 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] queenlua
And man, that was not a good book

Huh!

I read Leviathan Wakes because I'd heard so many folks gushing about The Expanse, and... I also thought the book was just Not Very Good, lol. It's interesting to hear they get better—do you think it'd be possible to just jump to the latter books without bothering with, I dunno, books 2 or 3? Or would it be too confusing (e.g. are the plots episodic or more overarching)?

Date: 2021-02-11 11:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] queenlua
Good to know! Thanks very much.

Date: 2021-02-12 02:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tree_and_leaf
I am so glad they killed Miller off, he was a walking cliche and his plot was terrible.

I'm particularly impressed by Pastor Anna, especially as I gather that neither half of James S A Corey is a churchgoer, as she feels completely convincing to me as a clergy person, and that's so often not the case with fictional clergy.
Edited Date: 2021-02-12 02:15 pm (UTC)

Date: 2021-02-12 12:26 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sabotabby
Yeah, the first book really wasn't great, and even though the first season was slow, I felt like they corrected a lot of the problems with it, like its POV characters being the two least interesting characters.

I wish someone would take that kind of chance on my book. But I'm not two well-known screenwriters.

Date: 2021-02-12 09:36 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sabotabby
You could be right! I know they had some kind of GoT connection, and in a lot of ways The Expanse feels like fix-it fic for GoT's flaws.

Date: 2021-02-13 10:35 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sugar_fey
Huh, can I ask what you disliked about Season 5? It's my favourite season along with Season 3. I'm interested to hear your thoughts since so far the biggest criticisms are from the reddit fanboys and it's of the "hurr durr not enough spaceships pew pew too much focus on a black woman SJW bullshit" variety. I do think the season suffered from some pacing issues and the finale in particular had some jarring moments, but I don't know how much of that was due to having to edit down Cas Anvar's scenes.

I tried reading Leviathan Wakes and yeah, I never made it past the halfway mark lol. It felt very... written by white men.

Date: 2021-02-13 09:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sugar_fey
Fair enough, lol. I disagree with some of this (I loved Drummer's arc and didn't think her family were gaslighting, but then I haven't read the books so I can't compare them), but I definitely agree with being uncomfortable with Karal's fate. It's glaring that this show finally cast a dark-skinned black woman only to turn her into a two-dimensional villain and then kill her off.

I was also uncomfortable with the way Marco, the violent, abusive man of colour, is juxtaposed against Holden, the all-American white man whose anger is always justified and who Treats Naomi Right. In a season full of 9/11 allusions, that felt like an early '00s throwback we could have done without. If Holden and Marco had both been played by men of colour, that wouldn't have stood out to me as much.

I do have criticisms of Season 5, as I do of the entire series, but for me it didn't damage my overall enjoyment.

Date: 2021-02-14 12:58 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sugar_fey
Right! As much as I think the show does try very hard, there are times where it comes so close and then... misses the mark entirely. I noticed this a lot in Season 4 and at various times in Season 5.

I wish the white writers and the white male members of the cast would shut up and just let the women do the talking, because some stuff they say in interviews is so self-congratulatory and off-base. Ty Franck in particular comes across sometimes like the guy who sat through the Social Justice 101 lecture so now thinks he has nothing more to learn because he is an Ally. Sometimes he gets it, sometimes he really doesn't. Just let Dom and Cara do the talking, Ty.

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