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He is his own evil twin.

Okay, fine, I decided to skip the last season and a half of Gallifrey and go back to the Benny audios that particularly feature Braxiatel.  [livejournal.com profile] elyssadc was right: he's a scary mofo.  Bless.  "What's that?  You think I'm a bit shady?  HOLD ON, I NEED TO WIPE YOUR MEMORIES AND BRAINWASH YOU INTO A COMA."

Also, the stories are true: Benny is River Song, only drunker.  WIN.  More than ever, I want to write the fic where River is all, "And then I thought I'd go off in search of the vanished and possibly mythical Braxiatel Collection", and Ten has to facepalm a lot.

Date: 2008-07-22 10:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] palmetto.livejournal.com
Oh hell, Benny and River on a dig together. Drunk.

If I could write either of 'em, I'd be doing that RIGHT. NOW.

Date: 2008-07-22 10:03 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lizbee.livejournal.com
It would be the BEST FIC EVER.

Date: 2008-07-22 10:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] palmetto.livejournal.com
No. What would make it the BEST FIC EVER would be if Benny's friend Iris showed up.

Date: 2008-07-22 10:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silly-cleo.livejournal.com
Hee, these sound like fun! Creepy fun but fun.

Date: 2008-07-22 11:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rj-anderson.livejournal.com
Before Martha and Donna came along, Benny was (albeit by a hair) my favorite companion of all time. TRUFAX.

Date: 2008-07-22 03:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elyssadc.livejournal.com
I love you! Why is there no Benny comm? She has like a thousand books and 9 seasons of audios. WHERE ARE THE FANS?!?!?

Date: 2008-07-22 04:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] biichan.livejournal.com
If you build it they will come?

Date: 2008-07-22 05:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elyssadc.livejournal.com
EEEK! That's a lot of pressure. But...maybe. It might give me something to do over the weekend if it continues to be too hot for human life outside.

Date: 2008-07-22 01:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] melengro.livejournal.com
If you can see Braxiatel, Braxiatel can see you. If you can't see Braxiatel, you may be only seconds from death.

...you know? It actually works!

I don't know if you've seen The Dark Knight or are planning to, but Aaron Eckhart!Twoface (it's not a spoiler if it's the first Google hit for 'harvey dent') was also somewhat Brax-tastic in a way.

Date: 2008-07-22 02:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] airie-fairy.livejournal.com
There's no way in hell that's a spoiler. If you know the character's name is Harvey Dent, you should kinda know where it's going.

Date: 2008-07-22 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elyssadc.livejournal.com
I couldn't agree more. That's like someone getting upset because before Batman Begins someone told them Bruce Wayne is Batman.

Date: 2008-07-22 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] airie-fairy.livejournal.com
...that didn't actually happen, right?

Date: 2008-07-22 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elyssadc.livejournal.com
Not that I saw, but this is the internet. I have to imagine that someone, somewhere said it.

Date: 2008-07-22 04:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] melengro.livejournal.com
Uh...can such stupidity be?

Date: 2008-07-22 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] melengro.livejournal.com
EXACTLY my point.

Date: 2008-07-22 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prof-pangaea.livejournal.com
If you can see Braxiatel, Braxiatel can see you. If you can't see Braxiatel, you may be only seconds from death.

wow that is disturbingly accurate.

Date: 2008-07-22 03:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elyssadc.livejournal.com
Okay, fine, I decided to skip the last season and a half of Gallifrey and go back to the Benny audios that particularly feature Braxiatel.

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!!!!!

I am so thrilled you liked them! Which ones did you listen to? He is so unbelievably evil now, it boggles the mind. But in my search to find ANYWHERE with some Benny discussion, I ended up at the OG forums. Shockingly enough, some people had brilliant thoughts (I know!). Specifically, I was totally taken aback by this analysis of Brax:

A slightly more sinister, callous version of the Doctor; a Mycroft to his Sherlock Holmes. Fighting monsters and putting things right, but with a much higher threshold for collateral damage. He is, then, all the things Benny hated about the Doctor - even that time she first met him on Heaven.

And there is more, but I don't want to spoil you if you don't want me to. It's about the timing of the series.

Oh, and Bernice is amazing. I love her so much it's stupid.

Date: 2008-07-22 07:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prof-pangaea.livejournal.com
a Mycroft to his Sherlock Holmes.

oh god, someone's going to have to resuscitate liz now. LIZ, CAN YOU HEAR ME? WE LOVE YOU. DON'T FOLOW THE LIGHT. COME BACK TO US!

Date: 2008-07-22 08:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lizbee.livejournal.com
It's funny, because I was thinking just last night that I love what Brax brings to the table, and when he's around, Doctor/Romana becomes what Holmes/Russell would have been, if Russell had met Mycroft first.

In short: I'm in a tunnel, and there's light, and beautiful music...

Date: 2008-07-22 10:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prof-pangaea.livejournal.com
COME BAAAAACK!! WHO ELSE WILL WRITE ME MASTER/BRAX IF YOU GO TO SPACE HEAVEN??


anyway:

and when he's around, Doctor/Romana becomes what Holmes/Russell would have been, if Russell had met Mycroft first.

i am stunned, STUNNED that such a thought should have occured to you, as i'm sure you can tell.

i was quite resistant to that theory even when it jumped crackily into my head, because i didn't think brax was as much of a BASTARD as mycroft. but benny audios may make me revise my opinion. ;_____;

at least he seems to go from more bastardly to less bastardly, as opposed to some dudes with evil machinations. or at least his bastardliness with have something to do with morality (cracked out as it may be) as opposed to mycroft's motivations, which probably revolve quite a bit around maintaining the empire, and what he's going to eat for dinner that night (not necessarily in that order).

Date: 2008-07-23 05:26 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lizbee.livejournal.com
So far I've listened to "The Mirror Effect" and the first part of "Death and the Daleks". I hope to be going on with that tonight, but I'm having dinner with a friend.

Anyway, I'm really impressed with what I've heard of the series. The writing is so much better than Gallifrey, or the DW audios I've heard (of course, since I only listened to the DW audios with Romana, that's not many). I have a lot of love for Benny, and her relationship with Brax -- which makes it a bit of a shame that I'm neutral-to-hostile to Jason and Adrian, both of whom I wish would STFU and GTFO. Well, Adrian might be allowed to stay, but Jason seems to be a Nice Guy, and that's never going to win my heart.

And, feel free to spoil me. I have trouble following audios (*is not a good listener*) without reading a plot summary beforehand, so I'm fairly well-spoiled all ready.

Date: 2008-07-23 08:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elyssadc.livejournal.com
Anyway, I'm really impressed with what I've heard of the series. The writing is so much better than Gallifrey, or the DW audios I've heard (of course, since I only listened to the DW audios with Romana, that's not many).

They really are EXCELLENTLY written. A lot of the reviewers on various sites I've seen appear to be of the opinion that the BF Bernice line is superior to the Who line, quality wise. They are tight stories and the characters are consistent and believable and interesting. I'm so pleased you like it.

I have a lot of love for Benny, and her relationship with Brax

KICK. ASS. I love Benny so much it's stupid. (I'm actually in the middle of applying to play her in an RP. My first one ever. I'm quite overwhelmed.) Her relationship with Brax is soooooo complex. His feelings about her are...disturbing. He's obsessed with controlling and manipulating her future, a lot like what he did with Romana. Just even more destructively and with a lot more collateral damage.

At one point she even accuses him of being jealous of the Doctor because of her travels with him. He denies it, but you can tell it's true. ;-)

The part that I wasn't sure you would want to be spoiled about was the timing of the later stories. After his first showdown with Jason, Brax goes back in time and puts himself in stasis for ages and ages. It's been suggested that he was able to survive the Time War this way and that everything he is doing now, all the evil shit, is in order to change the past and bring Gallifrey back. WHICH KICKS MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF ASS.

Date: 2008-07-23 08:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lizbee.livejournal.com
Her relationship with Brax is soooooo complex. His feelings about her are...disturbing. He's obsessed with controlling and manipulating her future, a lot like what he did with Romana. Just even more destructively and with a lot more collateral damage.

I approve of this. The timeline, so far as I've been able to work out so far, is that Braxiatel hooks up with Benny after he's been exiled from Gallifrey. I'm sure he was doing more than just casting about for a Romana-substitute, but that's what he got.

After his first showdown with Jason, Brax goes back in time and puts himself in stasis for ages and ages. It's been suggested that he was able to survive the Time War this way and that everything he is doing now, all the evil shit, is in order to change the past and bring Gallifrey back. WHICH KICKS MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF ASS.

I do like that idea, but surely Gallifrey still exists during the Benny audios? So he's messing about ensuring the preservation of Gallifrey, or parts thereof, thus setting up the final episode of Gallifrey. I don't know if you've heard it yet, so I shall refrain from further comment...

Date: 2008-07-23 08:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elyssadc.livejournal.com
I do like that idea, but surely Gallifrey still exists during the Benny audios?

It's hard to say. They never mention the Doctor by name (licensing reasons) and we never meet other time lords or hear Brax refer to Gallifrey. Because his own personal time line is so fucked up, this Brax could be from any point really. Personally, I think he saw that the Time War was inevitable and put himself in stasis so he would survive it. Now he's back to manipulating events so that he can undo the damage. But we can't know for sure yet. He says a lot of cryptic shit about needing Benny by his side, without distractions, doing what needs to be done. It's all very creepy and awesome.

Date: 2008-07-22 03:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] izhilzha.livejournal.com
Yeah, I was peeved with River Song mostly because she was not quite Benny.

Date: 2008-07-22 07:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prof-pangaea.livejournal.com
I want to write the fic where River is all, "And then I thought I'd go off in search of the vanished and possibly mythical Braxiatel Collection", and Ten has to facepalm a lot.

ok if you don't write that fic i will DISOWN YOU. from what, you may ask? SOMETHING, IMPORTANT. YES. SO YOU BETTER WRITE IT.

AAAAAHHHHHH!!!!! BEST FIC EVER. bonus points for when brax shows up and ten has a heart attack.

Date: 2008-07-22 08:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lizbee.livejournal.com
Going by the end of Gallifrey, I think they'd find Leela in suspended animation, and three fobwatches.

Date: 2008-07-22 10:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kerravonsen
Three fobwatches:
- Romana
- Brax
- Narvin?

Date: 2008-07-22 10:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prof-pangaea.livejournal.com
Narvin?

it would have to be or liz wouldn't be writing the fic. OH HOW WELL I KNOW YOU, LIZ.

*continues to hate CIA operatives despite liking narvin a bit*

Date: 2008-07-23 01:22 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lizbee.livejournal.com
CANONICALLY HE'S THERE! WITH THEM AT THE END! BEING SNIDE!

Date: 2008-07-23 01:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prof-pangaea.livejournal.com
all i'm saying is if i were brax, i would be sorely tempted to cosh him on the head and stash him in a closet. if romana asked where he was i would look innocent and say he went to go make a cuppa, then cosh her and put us both into fobwatches. leela would go along with this plan, as she also hates narvin. so it would be FLAWLESS.

Date: 2008-07-23 05:09 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lizbee.livejournal.com
Then for Narvin's sake, I'm glad you're not Brax. Anyway, he needs to keep Narvin around, to distract Romana and Leela from his sketchiness.

Date: 2008-07-23 01:21 am (UTC)

Date: 2008-07-22 11:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prof-pangaea.livejournal.com
i just kind of pictured brax wandering up behind the doctor as he was facepalming.

brax: "about that..."
doctor: "aaaaahhhgh!! *heart attacks*"
brax: "hmm. i wouldn't have thought the floor was so comfortable. anyway, how are you, professor song? since you and my brother are having the sexin's, i have a strange urge to seduce you. some feeling of payback or the like, for some reason. i have NO idea why, it's not as if he ever went and stole the girl i had been molding into my protege for decades out from under my nose or anything. so, what do you think?"
river: "...tell me more about this collection, and we'll see. i *do* like seeing him sputter, it's rather cute when he can't actually form words for minutes at a time."
brax: "this is a dastardly plan i can get behind."

TEH END... OR IS IT?

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