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I have just finished re-reading The Wolves of Willoughby Chase, and I've just begun Black Hearts in Battersea. As I re-read Aiken's Hanover novels, I find myself with just one question:

How is it possible that the BBC hasn't made a series of family-friendly TV movies based on these novels? HOW, I ASK YOU? Starring Daniel Radcliffe as Simon and Billie Piper* as Dido Twite, with cameos by every actor in England as various other characters.

Admit it. Now you're wondering the same thing. MATT SMITH CAN PLAY DOCTOR FIELD. ADMIT IT, THIS IS THE BEST IDEA I'VE EVER HAD!

* Well, yes. Who else?

Date: 2009-02-15 10:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] episkopos.livejournal.com
I remember these. I'm sure I do. The titles made childhood memories knock together and produce brain-sparks... and yet I remember nothing at all about them apart from the titles.

*wiki-wiki*

Black Hearts was adapted in '95 by that very same Beeb, which is probably why I remember it. None of which is to say that it shouldn't happen again.

Date: 2009-02-15 11:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sweet-adelheid.livejournal.com
For a moment there I thought you'd suggested Billie Piper as Bonnie, and my brain (which has Bonnie resolutely dark-haired, while Sylvia is blonde) rebelled. But then I noticed that you hadn't said that at all.

Date: 2009-02-15 12:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marymac.livejournal.com
There was a should-have-been-good film adaptation of Wolves done about '85, but I don't know who by.

When the BBC got stupid and decided to kill off the Radio 4 Children's Serial, the last serial was all the Dido books - Black Hearts through to I think the Cuckoo Tree. It was fabulous, but I've never been able to find it anywhere.

Date: 2009-02-15 10:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lizbee.livejournal.com
Oh, I've seen it! It had Stephanie Beacham as Miss Slighcarp, and a bizarre steampunk chariot chase, and YET managed to be quite terrible.

Date: 2009-02-15 11:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marymac.livejournal.com
YES! Film4 show it on Monday afternoons without fail. And I watch it every now and then and think it's not as bad as I thought it was, and then it is.

Date: 2009-02-16 07:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] episkopos.livejournal.com
Was that the one with Richard O'Brien in?

Date: 2009-02-16 05:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marymac.livejournal.com
Yes. He was James.

Date: 2009-02-15 12:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marymac.livejournal.com
Billie Piper's a wee tiny bit old for Dido, you madwoman. She's ten at the start and sixteen by the end and no makeup is that good!

Date: 2009-02-15 10:18 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lizbee.livejournal.com
Yes, but obviously Dido would be aged up (like Jim was in The Ruby in the Smoke -- too expensive to have a child actor in a lead role when the rest of the cast are adults -- and then there's the rule that Billie Piper has to play every third female lead in a period/literary piece, no matter how inappropriate the part.

Date: 2009-02-15 11:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marymac.livejournal.com
This is painfully true. *has not watched The Ruby in the Smoke due to flail about inappropriateness of casting in general*

Date: 2009-02-15 11:24 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lizbee.livejournal.com
It's not that Billie's bad in "Ruby", it's more that somehow the scripts for that and Mansfield Park got mixed up, so her Sally was demure and quiet, and her Fanny was romping and outspoken.

Date: 2009-02-15 11:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marymac.livejournal.com
The promos gave me a severe case of 'Oh God, my childhood' and I studied Mansfield bloody Park for A-Level so I was never, ever, even-at-gunpoint going to watch it. I think I did wisely, by that description.

Date: 2009-02-15 11:27 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lizbee.livejournal.com
The best thing you can say about Mansfield Park is that Michelle Ryan is quite good as Maria, and holds her own in the pout-off, even with Billie and Hayley Atwell as the competition.

Date: 2009-02-15 11:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marymac.livejournal.com
In fairness to them all, they really hadn't a lot to work with. A more one-dimensional pack of women Austen never wrote.

Sadly, CCEA decreed it was Mansfield Park or Tess of the D'Urberville's that year, so we actually got off lightly. For values of lightly that include your friend drawing detailed gravestones for every single character and herself while getting an ever more manic look.

Date: 2009-02-15 03:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ravenskyewalker.livejournal.com
I adored The Wolves of Willoughby Chase back around 1978. I never knew at that time that there had been sequels, though I wanted to read the rest of the story. It took me until I was an adult to check on that, but now can't recall how many books were in the series, and I've never tracked them down. I really should do that, shouldn't I? ... Yes.

(Weird little detail: I remember classmates taunting me because I loved a book with Chase in the title, and one of the guys who despised me at that age had that as his last name, so this apparently meant something big to them. Uh-huh. Great way to try to wreck the memory of a good story...)

Date: 2009-02-15 10:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lizbee.livejournal.com
I only found out that there was a whole series recently, and I was lucky enough to find the first four in a secondhand bookstore. I'm just a bit scared of moving beyond the familiar two...

Date: 2009-02-15 10:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violetisblue.livejournal.com
We Dido/Simon shippers, all four of us, support you in e-mail.

Date: 2009-02-15 10:27 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lizbee.livejournal.com
(The Billie Piper thing was just to annoy you!)

When I was a kid I shipped Simon/Bonnie, but now I think I ship Bonnie/Sylvia, and Simon's free for Dido.

Date: 2009-02-15 10:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violetisblue.livejournal.com
I have been typing my comments through a haze of the oppressed's despairing tears. Or it could be early spring allergies, I'm not certain which.

"When I was a kid I shipped Simon/Bonnie, but now I think I ship Bonnie/Sylvia, and Simon's free for Dido."

I always felt a bit wrong for shipping Bonnie/Sylvia since they're cousins and all, but really, how can you not? And the Dido/Simon is quite strong by the time we get to (spoiler) in Dido and Pa, so.

Date: 2009-02-15 11:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lizbee.livejournal.com
I have been typing my comments through a haze of the oppressed's despairing tears. Or it could be early spring allergies, I'm not certain which.

THOSE ARE THE TEARS OF OPPRESSION! THEY TASTE LIKE LEMONS AND SOUR YOGHURT!

NOW I SHALL PUT ON "BECAUSE WE WANT TO" AND DANCE!

I always felt a bit wrong for shipping Bonnie/Sylvia since they're cousins and all, but really, how can you not?

Likewise, but my vague reading extensive research tells me that no one would have thought twice about it back then, on account of lesbians not existing and all.

Date: 2009-02-15 11:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violetisblue.livejournal.com
"NOW I SHALL PUT ON "BECAUSE WE WANT TO" AND DANCE!"

OH GOD OF ISRAEL WHY WHY WHY *dives out nearest window, realizes impact of gesture somewhat blunted by being on first floor, shakes dirty half-melted snow and dead twigs from hair and slinks back inside*

"Likewise, but my vague reading extensive research tells me that no one would have thought twice about it back then, on account of lesbians not existing and all."

If Joan Aiken didn't want us to ship them, she would never have made one of them a bold, enterprising, fiercely protective tomboy with a trigger temper and crack shooting aim, and the other a gentle, delicate, ladylike little orphan in need of emotional succor. She was totally askin' for it.

Date: 2009-02-15 11:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marymac.livejournal.com
She does have a few elderly little old ladies in pairs in her stories...
And all of her little old ladies are awesome.

Date: 2009-02-15 11:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violetisblue.livejournal.com
I love her old ladies. And I don't usually gravitate toward tomboy characters, but I love Dido.

Date: 2009-02-15 11:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marymac.livejournal.com
I think possibly the only person in that timeline of books that I love more is Arabis. And that's nearly 100% due to her having a hawk.

Date: 2009-02-15 11:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violetisblue.livejournal.com
I will always be very grateful to the unnamed, distraught little girl who wrote to JA after reading Black Hearts in Battersea and begged her not to kill Dido off.

Date: 2009-02-15 11:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marymac.livejournal.com
She was going to kill her off? Oh my.
Wonderful distraught little girl, definitely!

Date: 2009-02-15 11:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violetisblue.livejournal.com
I saw her mention it in an interview ages back: She'd definitely meant Dido to have drowned, then she got the letter and began having second thoughts. Huzzah. :-)

Date: 2009-02-15 11:23 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lizbee.livejournal.com
If Joan Aiken didn't want us to ship them, she wouldn't have had Bonnie complaining that she was accustomed to boys' clothes by the end.

SO THERE.

Finally, and in conclusion:

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Date: 2009-02-15 11:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violetisblue.livejournal.com
You are so mean. You know Mickey Mouse gives me hives and throat-swelling.

Date: 2009-02-15 11:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lizbee.livejournal.com
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Date: 2009-02-15 11:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violetisblue.livejournal.com
There, see? Even Billie herself frowns upon your shenanigans.

Date: 2009-02-15 11:54 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lizbee.livejournal.com
I really must learn to be more sympathetic to those with strong allergies to animated mouse characters.

Date: 2009-02-16 12:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violetisblue.livejournal.com
My neck's gone all big and EVEN BILLIE BLAMES YOU.

Date: 2009-02-17 03:25 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] elbales
LIZ LIZ! SQUID!

I thought of you instantly. Of course.

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