lizbee: Close-up of Korra's face as she smirks (LoK: Korra)
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APPARENTLY I'm having too many feelings to type a cut tag. THAT'S PROMISING. In fact, I'm having a lot of thoughts, and am looking forward to watching this again tonight with [personal profile] weaver and [personal profile] indeed. (Saturday nights are Feels 'n' Korra nights for the next few weeks.)

So narratively, the Water Tribe plot and the Air Temple plot were only linked by themes of family, but I found them equally compelling. But let's cover the Water Tribe first.

It's interesting that both seasons of LoK so far have been about pitting the Avatar against Fascism in its various forms -- season 1 had your "let's persecute minorities while appropriating the language of social justice" types versus Tarrlok's law and order types, and Unalaq is more your nationalist, I think. [personal profile] delphi remarks that Korra's so sheltered she has no Fascistdar, but let's face it, lots of people don't.

I sense some retconning here, with the establishment that Southerners who hold the title of "chief" are merely village chiefs -- sorry, Hakoda, turns out all this time we've been promoting you -- and that the Northern Water Tribe technically has sovereignty over the South. I'm kind of glad that has been made clear, because the two tribes, though quite similar, have been separate for at least a few hundred years, and have different cultures in many respects -- and basically, I've been feeling like calling this a civil war is like ... okay, if England invaded Australia (again), and people called it a civil war, I'd be pretty shirty, you know? So setting up that the tribes are, on paper, a single political entity works.

Having said that, like Senna says, the conflict between the tribes has been going for a really long time. Probably since before the North said, "What, you're the subject of genocidal attacks? Welp, good luck with that!" and effectively abandoned the South. They're closer again, with the infusion of northerners to repopulate the SWT, but that in itself is probably a source of tension. I mean, they have a seat each on the Republic City council.

Anyway, this is all what Bryke neatly described on Tumblr as "Trade Federation stuff", and the important question is, how does it affect Korra?

Things Korra's not good at: politics, defusing hostilities, admitting she's wrong. I get a certain sadistic amount of glee at watching her try, and then fail, and then try again and fail differently.

(Fandom has been exceptionally misogynistic this week with regard to Korra. It's been quite ugly, and between you, me and the entire internet, I'm beginning to side eye anyone who says Asami is a better character. I mean, Asami's great and all, but there's something dodgy about disregarding the unfeminine, imperfect, bolshy heroine in favour of the pretty, feminine one who never causes any upset.)

I really loved the scenes where Korra interacted with her mother. And not just because Senna's voice actress is amazing. Senna seems terribly quiet, maybe even shy, but there's immense strength behind that. I'm curious, though, because she says she and Tonraq really wanted to raise a family -- but Korra is an only child. Did they think it would be best if they could give Korra all their attention, or were there other factors? (There's four years between Korra's birth and her manifestation as the Avatar, after all.)

Oh, and Bolin and Mako were around.

MEANWHILE, AT THE AIR TEMPLE, we have some really unexpectedly mature stuff about being the middle-aged children of a Great Man, and being an adult who feels that your childhood(s) could have been better, and sibling rivalries and stuff.

Judging from my Tumblr dash, fandom is not happy (HAH! AS IF FANDOM HAD THE CAPACITY FOR HAPPINESS!) to learn that Aang was not in fact the perfect dad. Words like "character assassination" are being chucked around.

For my part, I'm over the moon, and not just because "established character turns out to be a pretty average parent" is a major narrative kink of mine. (Why do you think I love writing kidfic?)

It makes a lot of sense that Aang wouldn't necessarily be a great dad. For one thing, as Korra's plot demonstrates, there's a certain amount of inherent conflict between "being the Avatar" and "having a family". And Aang grew up in a culture where children weren't raised by their own parents. He probably saw his relationship with Tenzin as replicating the one he had with Monk Gyatso -- a sort of loving spiritual mentorship (with pranks), very much paternal to our eyes, but I doubt the Air Nomads perceived it that way.

I mean, there's also the bit where Kya and Bumi's perceptions may not accord with reality either. As kids, my sister and I were convinced that our brother was Mum's favourite, when really, it's just that they had the same temperament and communicated more easily. Families are complicated! And it's actually kind of cool that all this is coming out in a setting outside of Republic City, because if Lin was there, she'd be able to offer a more objective outsider's perspective. And I kiiiiind of don't want that yet. I'm quite enjoying the sibling dynamic in isolation.

I'm also enjoying that, both last week and now, there seems to be a growing conflict between Jinora and Ikki. Which makes sense to me, because while they're very close in age, Jinora's on the cusp of puberty, and that's a time of, you know, tension.

GROWING UP IS HARD. JUST ASK KORRA.

Date: 2013-09-21 04:38 am (UTC)
skywaterblue: (john lennon - glasses)
From: [personal profile] skywaterblue
I thought both of these themes were surprisingly weird for a TV show still ostensibly aimed at eight year olds. Unless Nick's changed marketing strategy, it's not really a network analogous to something like BBC's family dramas hour where a whole age range are expected to sit down. I mean, undoubtedly Nick KNOWS that a large chunk of the audience are not children, and are in fact, adults looking for the cartoon version of prestige drama... but! Still! This episode featured the following plot points: raising gifted children is hard, parenting in general is hard, minor traumas in childhood can burst into intense resentments in the middle-aged, long simmering tribal politics sometimes leads to civil war!

Regarding the Water Tribe, I'm not sure that the South was always under rule of the North. To me, with last week's revelation that there are barbarians (!) in the North suggests that the real history might turn out like this: the Northern Tribe is actually a colony of the South that fell away from the North in a time prior to the 100 Year War. After the tribes regained contact, Aang encouraged them to unite in an effort to save the existence of the Southern culture, but acting on imperfect knowledge of the past (which no living Southerner may have been capable of fully explaining) didn't know that this would basically be setting up this conflict in the future.

Thus, Hakoda really WAS the Chieftain of an independent Southern Water Tribe, but due to reasons, it was swept under the rug and the previous form of governance, with the South functioning as a colony of the North, was resumed.

Aang not seeming like the perfect dad to Bumi and Kya makes a lot of sense. He had a great deal of angst about the death of his culture, and with only ONE airbending child to pass on an entire legacy... (Yet curiously, Aang also seems to have decided to set up the Air Acolytes, so why they didn't just raise Bumi and Kya as Acolytes...?)

ETA: They seem to be setting up a Mako/Korra split pretty heavily, don't they?
Edited Date: 2013-09-21 04:40 am (UTC)

Date: 2013-09-21 02:06 pm (UTC)
innerbrat: (palaeo)
From: [personal profile] innerbrat
Have you read The Promise? You don't need to, it's not very good. But it sets up the foundations of the Air Acolytes as basically a group of Air Nomad/Avatar fans, who chose independently to live and preserve the ways of the Air Nomads. It touched on cultural appropriation and Aang's discomfort with the way his people were fetishised, but essentially he didn't so much set them up, as work with them to make sure they didn't fuck everything up.

Date: 2013-09-21 11:13 pm (UTC)
skywaterblue: (Kira's awesome s7 hair)
From: [personal profile] skywaterblue
Yeah, I haven't read any of them. Supposedly they have bits that are relevant but I'm actually mostly not interested in actually seeing HOW the interregnum years worked out, or the mysteries of Zuko's mom, etc. I think it's more interesting to watch Korra and then extrapolate backwards.

ETA: I think the frustrating thing here is that I feel like the things that get explained in these comics are better in my imagination.
Edited Date: 2013-09-21 11:14 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-09-22 07:03 am (UTC)
innerbrat: (you're awesome)
From: [personal profile] innerbrat
They are, almost certainly, better in your imagination.

Date: 2013-09-21 11:11 pm (UTC)
skywaterblue: (amy and rory wedding)
From: [personal profile] skywaterblue
Except that's the opposite of everything the show has always implied and extended material has said outright. Not to mention that it wouldn't make sense for the colony tribe to have the larger, more sophisticated city.

I get confused about which one is which a LOT*, so despite looking it up I bunged it up. What I meant is that the tribe that Korra, Katara et all are from is the colony tribe and the one they visit in Avatar with the Moon Princess and the large city is the founding population. Which explains why the North (?) didn't care very much that their tribesmen were getting slaughtered en masse. Because fuck those rebels.

*I have dyscalculia. It's fun because no one knows it's a thing!

Date: 2013-09-21 11:20 pm (UTC)
skywaterblue: (adventuring in time and space)
From: [personal profile] skywaterblue
No, I'm sorry! I... really fucked that one up.

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