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I got home from work, and somehow it was like INSTA!BAD MOOD! Usually it's the other way around. But I sat down, and suddenly today's stomach cramps turned into hiccups, and then there was the casting call for the new Torchwood characters, and that was like RTD had sat down to create the maximum amount of fail possible. So no good mood for Liz! Maybe I'll feel better after I've had a shower and a glass of wine*.

In the meantime, let's all admire RTD's casting call. The new characters on Torchwood are:

- asshole white guy
- woman of colour who unrequitedly loves asshole white guy
- Roman Polanski

Things which don't seem to upset belly: lighter red wines, smoked salmon and marscapone pizza, strawberry and lime cider, frozen spaghetti bolognese, Arnotts Country Cheese crackers, raspberry and orange juice. Things which do upset belly: EVERYTHING ELSE.

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From:

xwingace

I can only hope that Oswald Jones is supposed to be the series villain. FFS!

XWA

From:

professor_stream

Huuuuh. Well. It--could be well-handled. ...I hope. Perhaps our pedophile is not a TEAM MEMBER, as that part of the message is truncated on the casting call? Surely he wouldn't be, just due to: how could the CIA afford to associate with a minor media celebrity? Talk about blown covers.

So it might be alrightish. Except I already hate Rex. And what a name. Lord, it's Bridehead Revisited Revisited. Ahaha, I love that joke. Go me.

...just prepping you for the arrogance that is: REX!!

--'too busy enjoying myself',
x_los

From:

melyanna

Someone copied these to me last night. Here's how ~~Roman Polanski~~ Oswald's ends: "But this man is destined to become more important than even he could have foreseen, as terrifying events of worldwide significance begin to turn around him... "

Don't know if he's a series regular, but that's still made of significant fail.

From:

violetisblue

Criswell predicts that events of "significance" turning around Oswald + Esther's highlighted devout Christianity = pedo!Christ incoming on runway seven. I'll be over in the corner here, laughing some more.

From:

be_themoon

Oh god please no.

I have my issues with Christianity, but. That's just ABSURD. They can't do that. They CAN'T.

From:

violetisblue

Despite the aforementioned laughter I'm totally serious in this prediction, based on RTD's fascination with Christian themes and messiah-figures and his take on the concept of "forgiveness" as played out in previous stuff. Also he seems like the sort of fella who would enjoy poking at what he imagines the "mainstream" religious sensibilities in his new resident country to be with a giant stick, wheeee I'm so edgy.

From:

be_themoon

The awful thing is, you might be right. I can definitely see where his various tendencies would come into play here and lead to something truly horrific. Messiah-figures, he does have a Thing for them. Jack, Ten, Owen the King of the Weevils fighting Death.

Yeah, I knew I wasn't going to be watching this season (not after the utter FAIL of Children of Earth), but now I'm REALLY not watching it. *sigh*

From:

violetisblue

"Messiah-figures, he does have a Thing for them. Jack, Ten, Owen the King of the Weevils fighting Death."

And Ten's divine-intervention-style "I forgive you" to the Master and (in offscreen interviews) all that stuff about how we should pity the Master because he's mentally ill, not hate him as evil. If that sort of reasoning comes into play for the pedo it should be...interesting.

"I knew I wasn't going to be watching this season (not after the utter FAIL of Children of Earth), but now I'm REALLY not watching it."

I drifted away from Torchwood after S1 and so anything I know about it now comes from my flist, which, seems frankly like a better setup than actually watching it.

From:

be_themoon

Yeah, that. Ugh, the Tinkerbell!Jesus!Doctor was really, really distasteful for me.

... he WOULDN'T. owww, my head, it hurts. D:

I haven't watched Torchwood regularly at all - S2 I liked better than S1, though. More Ianto, Owen became much less of an asshole and even a sympathetic figure, though I was never quite able to fully like him because HI, RAPIST. Tosh was lovely in it, too. It made me sad for the ladies, though - they didn't get enough awesome, though they did manage to get some good moments in.

From:

be_themoon

My sister: "Well that's just creepy."

And I didn't even have time to tell her about the racefail before she left!

From:

skipthedemon

....this is a joke, right?

From:

tellitslant

Whaaaaaat the actual fuck.

Also, "Rex Matheson"? Seriously? So, everything RTD knows about america, he learned from reading hard-boiled detective novels, eh?

From:

violetisblue

I rolled my eyes at the fervently Christian character being named "Esther" as well.

From:

melengro

I'm reading a Charles Williams novel right now (HELLO, FEMALE CHARACTER NAMED LESTER FURNIVAL!) so I didn't even notice that. I just noticed the generic, unreal 'LOL SHE'S NOT WHITE' surname.

From:

lilacsigil

Katusi is a real name - it's an older-style romanisation of "Katsushi", a Japanese surname. Lots of Japanese-Americans use pre-WWII romanisations because that's when their families arrived in the US.

That said, "all races and ethnicities EXCEPT Caucasian" tends to indicate "I saw this name somewhere and it sounded EXOTIC".

From:

melengro

I knew of Katsushi. I did not know of Katusi. Thank you.

DEAR GOD I KNOW. JAPANESE=NOT-WHITE TO RUSTY AND THAT'S ALL THE THOUGHT HE SEEMS TO PUT INTO IT.

From:

fallingtowers

So, convicted pedophile >>> good-hearted woman of colour.

Something is wrong here, but I can't quite figure out what it might be... /sarcasm

From:

betonprosa

(hi, here via a friend!)

Uhhhh RTD seriously thinks that making a child molester a featured character is gonna fly? As much as I like Torchwood--which is admittedly not very much--I hope this bombs ASAP.

And wow would I ever be ticked off if I was Burn Gorman or Naoko Mori.

From:

violetisblue

But hey, at least there won't be any women in miniskirts! I haven't stopped laughing since I first read this. I may never stop.

Edited Date: 2010-07-13 03:50 pm (UTC)

From:

melengro

There's nothing specifically saying that Esther can't wear a miniskirt, except for the fact that Rusty probably thinks that all people who are religious live like Amish or unreconstructed Mormons.

From:

violetisblue

Except in those Dawkinsian star cults, where you're required either to wear miniskirts or dress at all times like a cheeky Edwardian servant-boy.

From:

melengro

Hey now, Romana sometimes dressed like an Edwardian servant-GIRL!

From:

violetisblue

That surely must've been in connection with some esoteric ritual or other, though. (There is star-cult fic out there somewhere, isn't there? Or is that hoping for too much?)

From:

melengro

The more the Dawkins star cult resembles the Order of the Golden Dawn, the happier I am.

From:

violetisblue

Is that one of Aleister Crowley's projects? What I know about modern occultism would fit into a beetle's thimble.

From:

melengro

Not originally. Aleister Crowley seized control after a leadership battle with Charles Williams. Which, as you can imagine, has been made into a graphic novel.

From:

violetisblue

That....looks kind of interesting, actually. Hmm.

From:

melengro

It's apparently better as an English Lit lesson than as a story, but that's okay by me.

From:

brewsternorth

Sounding a note of caution: are we sure this is a genuine casting notice?

From:

violetisblue

If it's not, it's a damned funny prank. *tips hat in advance*

From:

lizbee

I wondered about that, and I did some digging, and it does appear to be a real screencap from a password-only site where agents get casting sides to pass on to their clients.

It's possible that someone faked up the 'cap, but ONTD's mods have been extra-vigilant about that since the scandal with the faked Michael Lohan tweets. The person who posted it doesn't use her LJ, but she's had an account since 2004, and as LJ likes to keep telling us, people do join LJ just to post to ONTD.

From:

dancesontrains

AGH

From:

melengro

YOU GOTTA BE SHITTING ME.

...you're not. Are you.

From:

violetisblue

Brewsternorth points out the whole thing could be a prank. Which, I love a good harmless prank, so either way everybody wins. :-D

From:

hooton

Well, Roman Polanksi does have the free time now.

(Can RTD not think of a surname other than Jones? Is this Ianto's evil American cousin?)

From:

fyrdrakken

No, it's just that the three most common surnames in Wales are Jones, Davis, and Thomas. I can see why Rusty Davies isn't going to name a character Davis, but I wonder why he doesn't use Thomas occasionally.

From:

alienist

The man's outdone himself, I must say. That's disgusting in all kinds of different ways!

If it's real, and it seems like it is. Ugh.

(I was actually hopeful for this season, too, because by and large I quite liked Children of Earth. Of course, I wanted an angsty dark comedy Alice/Agent Johnson buddy cop type show and that was never going to happen.)

From:

neadods

So... he's essentially recreated Tosh, turned Owen into the predator most people considered him as being (and turned him into a celebrity for it), and cloned Jack without the immortality.

Tell me again how original a writer this guy is?

From:

lavinia

Friend-of-friend says actors report they can't find that post on the database, indicating it's a fake.

It is pretty entertaining, though.

From:

glockgal

Huh. I got a friend saying he knows a couple actors who were able to pull up the casting sheets. He's located in LA - I wonder if that would make any difference to cast sheet distribution?

From:

lavinia

Oh, wow - I'd already dismissed this as fake, but now my head threatens to explode again at the possibility of it being real. :O

From:

sabrina

How... charming.

From:

azdaja_dafema

boiling with lust and rage

BOILING WITH LUST AND RAGE.

From:

fyrdrakken

It's really a good thing this is for Torchwood, a show I never much cared about. I'd be really upset if Rusty was revamping a show I liked -- especially for Starz, who'll let him go really over the top on the sex and violence and "edginess."

From:

thetwistedspinster.wordpress.com

I find it interesting that the non-white minority female character is also going to be a "devout Christian." A devout Christian in "unrequited" love with someone who seems to be a thoroughgoing bastard. Has Rusty ever met any devout Christian women? He certainly doesn't seem to have met any Americans.

From:

melengro

Different credible entertainment news sources (Entertainment Weekly, Digital Spy, the Seattle Post-Intelligencer newspaper) are presenting this information. So it seems to be very real.

From:

karohemd

WT flying F?
(here via

miss_s_b)
(sorry, I have no angry icon here)

From:

moviegrrl

Kill it with fire....
*sobs*
After all the brilliance of Children of Earth too...

From:

jaydeyn

Oh for fucks sake.

D:
Jaydeyn

From:

tifaswife

Why am I not surprised? Bad writing, RTD. We've seen this story already...please, do something else...preferably with a woman of color who a) won't die, b) isn't a Mary Sue, AND c) is the main character.